tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7872493581238440851.post6800380504316991777..comments2024-03-15T05:41:57.261+00:00Comments on Frugal Blog: The (Surprising) Cost of Electricity and FuelNYK in Frugaldomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01702184851369212088noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7872493581238440851.post-6756784346950857422011-12-21T19:50:07.686+00:002011-12-21T19:50:07.686+00:00Delete " Surprising " and put " pa...Delete " Surprising " and put " painful " ! Happy Christmas all ! Debs : )Daisy Debshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08105828820178399476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7872493581238440851.post-6439385938076107532011-12-17T13:46:15.346+00:002011-12-17T13:46:15.346+00:00Yes I know you have the stream. Isn't it sad ...Yes I know you have the stream. Isn't it sad too to see all that energy going down the stream? <br /><br />There's a town near me that used to have a wool mill with its own waterwheel in the 1930's. They used to use it to power the towns street lights. <br /><br />I agree with you that the 'investment' costs make them prohibitive to most people. <br /><br />I have been reading about the farmhouses years ago. Residences would be built over the top of the cow stall and the heat would rise and keep the people warm! <br /><br />People where much more organic and ecological in the past than we are today!northsider https://www.blogger.com/profile/00716743611909673869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7872493581238440851.post-32583757318057075162011-12-17T11:44:27.612+00:002011-12-17T11:44:27.612+00:00Dave, the 'investment' costs of these thin...Dave, the 'investment' costs of these things make them prohibitive to most of us, especially when living on a tight budget. Nice to think about them, but not within financial reach of the likes of us, I don't think. <br /><br />Apart from that, I live in a terraced cottage on an ordinary street, so no potential for developing back garden to such an extent. Would love a water wheel, though, and we do have a stream running through the garden! :)NYK in Frugaldomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01702184851369212088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7872493581238440851.post-37996616045638840352011-12-16T12:53:32.633+00:002011-12-16T12:53:32.633+00:00Have you looked into home based wind and water pow...Have you looked into home based wind and water powered turbines?<br /><br />Scotland, Northern England, Ireland and Wales seem to get extraordinary amounts of rainfall. We should be able to put the wind from the storms and rain to good use. <br /><br />In Sweden, Farmers sell cow slurry to electricity companies. In Brazil they extract ethanol (I think its that) from land-fill tips to power their cars. <br /><br />I often go passed houses at night with every light on that look like Blackpool illuminations.northsider https://www.blogger.com/profile/00716743611909673869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7872493581238440851.post-37168200179368276502011-12-15T18:43:08.855+00:002011-12-15T18:43:08.855+00:00Fabulous that you have managed to get the cost dow...Fabulous that you have managed to get the cost down- very thought provoking though. I have totted up how much we have used this year and currently it is standing at £780 for the year- This is heating a three bedroomed terraced house. Our energy providers always try to work on £1200 for the year, but i am always way under that. I did think of re installing the fire myself as i find that i miss a coal fire- and i could save my self more money. I am looking into how much it would cost and whether the saving is worth it.gillibobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17739807895366629906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7872493581238440851.post-44151799148761046022011-12-15T11:14:30.659+00:002011-12-15T11:14:30.659+00:00Sue, the insulation fitting is done, see http://fr...Sue, the insulation fitting is done, see http://frugaldom.blogspot.com/2011/12/sheep-are-keeping-my-kitchen-warm.html for details. :)<br /><br />Shaz, when you work prices out over the longterm, there's very little real difference if you're having to rely solely on electricity. With no standing charge, simply multiply your unit price by 5000 (or whatever) then add on the 5% VAT. With previous rate, do exact same, but also add on annual standing charge plus the VAT It's the easiest way to see if any discounts for direct debit, paperfree billing ot whatever are really helping.<br /><br />I didn't even compare 2008 to now on a like for like basis - we were on a normal meter with Economy 7 through the night and getting all the discounts we could for instant payment and paperfree billing in 2008, whereas we are now on pre-payment meter being charged standard Scottish Power rates. Does that mean top end of the pricing structure now is still less than cheapest options in 2008?NYK in Frugaldomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01702184851369212088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7872493581238440851.post-42921577574718193102011-12-15T09:30:39.494+00:002011-12-15T09:30:39.494+00:00interesting , I saw a programme the other day that...interesting , I saw a programme the other day that was calling for a simplification of energy prices so consumers can better understand the true cost. They want all providers to have the same standing charge price and onnly compete on actaul energy prices, the idea being you can see at a glance what the real cost is.<br /><br />We dont pay a standing charge but our KWH price has gone up 3p in 2 years.The Squirrel Familyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08970265671489926403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7872493581238440851.post-56177441311042082142011-12-15T09:09:14.613+00:002011-12-15T09:09:14.613+00:00Extremely interesting reading and well worth doing...Extremely interesting reading and well worth doing.<br /><br />I hope your savings on fuel go to plan. It sounds like you are well on your way to getting your little 'fixy up' warm and cosy, keep going!!<br /><br />Have you installed the wool insulation in the kitchen yet?<br /><br />Sue xxSuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04177854521955532744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7872493581238440851.post-56171167358252229282011-12-14T18:57:47.249+00:002011-12-14T18:57:47.249+00:00Thanks Mrs T, apologies for editing this post whil...Thanks Mrs T, apologies for editing this post while you were in process of reading it and commenting, but I'm sure you'll understand why when you read the results - I had to include them! LOLNYK in Frugaldomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01702184851369212088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7872493581238440851.post-23027425104692715782011-12-14T18:16:17.681+00:002011-12-14T18:16:17.681+00:00Congratulations! You'll be looking back at thi...Congratulations! You'll be looking back at this in 12 months time and amaze yourself with how much 'stuff' you get done. Hope you have a lovely Christmas and best wishes for next year, looking forward to more adventures xxAnd Sew Onhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00642754981830391186noreply@blogger.com